Stuff like this just pisses me off

Glenn Beck’s star continues to rise (honestly, has no one figured out that all he’s doing is making himself money??), and with it we keep having normally serious-minded people attempting to deconstruct his claims and statements. Now it’s the constantly argued point of whether or not the US is a Christian nation.

Quick background: it’s not.

That said, some yahoo over at CNN decided to argue on Beck’s side that it is, and so we’re subjected to one of many trash heaps of ignorance that pop out of these people now and again. In the middle of it all, he spouts out this gem:

Bunch complains that, “In April, Barton told Beck’s 3 million TV viewers that ‘we use the Ten Commandments as basis of civil law and the Western world [and it] has been for 2,000 years.’ ”

Perhaps this is why the Ten Commandments numerals are represented at the bottom of a door to the U.S. Supreme Court courtroom and why Moses, revered as the lawgiver to Jews in the Hebrew bible, and Christians in the New Testament, appears holding two tablets elsewhere in the Supreme Court building.

Not to be a complete asshole, but here’s the decalogue (and I’ll be using the King James version from Exodus, abbreviated slightly):

  1. I am the Lord your God. You shall have no other gods before Me.
  2. You shall not make for yourself a graven image.
  3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
  4. Remember the Sabbath day.
  5. Honor your father and your mother.
  6. You shall not murder.
  7. You shall not commit adultery.
  8. You shall not steal.
  9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
  10. You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.

Now, reprinted to include only the things that we have laws against.

  1. You shall not murder.
  2. You shall not steal.
  3. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

And even #3 there is only if we count perjury, so I’m being generous in saying that 30% of the Ten C’s are included in our laws. Hell, 40% of the Commandments are related to worshiping God correctly, so one could accurately say that our First Amendment eliminates more of the Decalogue than our laws embrace it. Not only that, but it seems to be missing a lot of other things. Rape, slavery, abuse, arson, prostitution, child labor. Possibly because the Old Testament wholly endorses most of those things.

The rest of the article picks out one statement of John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson, ignoring that he also wrote things like the following:

I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved — the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!

Or…

The question before the human race is, whether the God of nature shall govern the world by his own laws, or whether priests and kings shall rule it by fictitious miracles?

Yet there he is, using Adams as evidence of devout Christianity. Pathetic, really. And then, despite using something Adams wrote in a letter to Jefferson, discounts the famous “wall of separation” quote as “from a letter from President Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury, Connecticut, Baptists.” Pot? Kettle.

Really, articles like this simply piss me off. I don’t know if the authors are intentionally misleading readers, are just so lazy that they don’t want to do any real research, or are afraid of what they’d find if they did. The Razor would say go for option #2, but I’m not so sure. Call me skeptical.

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4 responses to “Stuff like this just pisses me off

  1. I don’t know if the authors are intentionally misleading readers, are just so lazy that they don’t want to do any real research, or are afraid of what they’d find if they did.

    You forgot option 4: really they're that stupid.

    But honestly. I'm pretty sure that most societies pre-Ten Commandments were pretty much down on murder, stealing, and what, lieing under oath? If these laws existed around the world well before the TC, then that pretty much shoots to shit any claim that it's the TC that laws stand on.

  2. I don’t know if the authors are intentionally misleading readers, are just so lazy that they don’t want to do any real research, or are afraid of what they’d find if they did.

    You forgot option 4: really they're that stupid.

    But honestly. I'm pretty sure that most societies pre-Ten Commandments were pretty much down on murder, stealing, and what, lieing under oath? If these laws existed around the world well before the TC, then that pretty much shoots to shit any claim that it's the TC that laws stand on.

  3. Well, if you look at the so called "author" of this opinion, you can see why he only sticks to the BS and doesn't look any further than his "proof" that the US is a Christian Nation.

    He's Christian himself.

    I honestly don't know how many Christians believe the US is a Christian Nation, but I'm pretty sure the total would be "a lot". And, like typical kids, they stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalala" when they're shown the truth, so they don't hear it and can continue to believe in their pretend world.

  4. Well, if you look at the so called "author" of this opinion, you can see why he only sticks to the BS and doesn't look any further than his "proof" that the US is a Christian Nation.

    He's Christian himself.

    I honestly don't know how many Christians believe the US is a Christian Nation, but I'm pretty sure the total would be "a lot". And, like typical kids, they stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalala" when they're shown the truth, so they don't hear it and can continue to believe in their pretend world.

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